Bungo 10:26 Fri Jan 3
BC and AD had their chips?
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This is not exactly hot news, but apparently the terms BC and AD are on their way out, to be replaced by BCE (before common era) and CE (common era).
Whilst the reference 'zero' date remains the same, clearly this removes potential 'offence' for those who do not wish their year numbering system to be linked to Christianity.
Now this seems to have been a thing for a while but I've just become aware of this. Have I been living in a bubble or is this news to anyone else?
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gph
11:43 Fri Jan 3
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I quite like the fact that most scholars think AD is at least four years out.
AD is worse than the WHO clock
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Cheezey Bell-End
7:04 Fri Jan 3
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I can't imagine an atheist being genuinely offended by AD and BC. I think there may be a legitimate academic reason, or a muslim/jew might be uncomfortable considering what the letters stand for.
Ultimately though, things like this reveal who the real snowflakes are.
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BRANDED
6:09 Fri Jan 3
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ironsofcanada 12:05 Fri Jan 3
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I have to pay my taxes once a year. My accountant reminds me.
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Alwaysaniron
5:34 Fri Jan 3
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FMOB
It's been BC and AD for 2000 years and we're now going to change it because it upsets some fucking snowflake?
FUCK OFF if you don't like it. We're fucking used to it and happy with the way it is thanks very much!
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Darlo Debs
5:21 Fri Jan 3
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Oh and Geoff Pikey 2.07 Excellent work 😂😂
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Darlo Debs
5:20 Fri Jan 3
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Golden Oldie 2.11
I think, given Jesus's views and teachings (if they happened) tell us one thing. He'd have been as dismayed about your rabid intolerance, as Netanayhu's or anyone else who.preaches/practices or just spews hate. online.
#Lovethyneighbour
*packs bags and moves to hippy commune
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arsene york-hunt
5:19 Fri Jan 3
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The year 0000 should be set at the foundation of the Sumerian city of Eridu the world's first known city, not the made up DOB of some fictitious character from the realms of mumbo jumbo
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ironsofcanada
2:22 Fri Jan 3
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orwells tragedy 2:15 Fri Jan 3
Safire was educated but certainly not politically correct.
I was giving you selected quotes to show I was correct in remembering strong feelings over 20 years ago.
Some more neutral and contrary quotes
"Christians could be a little less triumphal,'' noted the Rev. Charles B. Atcheson, rector of All Saints Church in Waterloo, Belgium. ''Yes, the world has largely accepted the Christian calendar scheme that begins, a little inaccurately, with the birth of Jesus, but calling it 'the common era' is not a great loss and could be taken as a sign of acceptance of others. It will not be lost on anyone what happened shortly before the year 1.''"
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"Disagreement is sharp. ''It is one thing to deny the divinity of Christ,'' observed Michael McGonnigal of Silver Spring, Md. ''It is quite another to deny His historical existence, which is what is implied by the superfluous switch from the traditional B.C. to the P.C. B.C.E.''"
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orwells tragedy
2:15 Fri Jan 3
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ronsofcanada 2:08 Fri Jan 3
"
That article could have been shortened to ".....if I may be so politically correct'', we could have guessed the rest
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ironsofcanada
2:14 Fri Jan 3
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orwells tragedy 2:09 Fri Jan 3
Different lives I guess.
I had professors explicitly forbid the use of BC/AD. Both for personal reasons and more broad exclusiveness ones.
You would lose marks.
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Golden Oldie
2:11 Fri Jan 3
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At least gph/cholo and Bibi Netanyahu will be happy about this news.
Still persecuting Jesus even after 2,000 years
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orwells tragedy
2:09 Fri Jan 3
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Never heard anyone say they were offended by the terms BC and AD in 56yrs (no universities attended)......if that helps.
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ironsofcanada
2:08 Fri Jan 3
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William Safire writing in 1997 New York Times.
"In a recent column about what to call the Bible, I posed the question: Should it be B.C. or -- in deference to Muslims, Jews and other non-Christians -- B.C.E., standing for ''before the Common Era''? In the same ecumenical way, the question arises: should A.D. or C.E., ''Common Era,'' be used to signify the time since Jesus of Nazareth was born (in 4 B.C., for reasons of calendar error; it is not in my linguistic purview to explain)?"
What a mail pull. From Prof. Harold Bloom of Yale, my Bronx Science classmate whose landmark book ''The Western Canon'' booms across the Kulturkampf battlefields: ''Every scholar I know uses B.C.E. and shuns A.D.''
The shunning of A.D. (like the one that sits wrongly placed on the moon) goes clear up to the Supreme Court. Adena K. Berkowitz, who has both a law degree and a doctorate in Hebrew literature, applied to practice before the Court. ''In the application,'' she wrote, ''I was asked if I wished 'in the year of our Lord' to be included as part of the date listed on the certificate or omitted.'' She chose to omit: ''Given the multicultural society that we live in, the traditional Jewish designations -- B.C.E. and C.E. -- cast a wider net of inclusion, if I may be so politically correct.''
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geoffpikey
2:07 Fri Jan 3
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Advent Calendars
Their days are numbered
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orwells tragedy
2:02 Fri Jan 3
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ironsofcanada 1:52 Fri Jan 3
Nice to know we can band everyone together on the actions of a few......
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orwells tragedy
2:00 Fri Jan 3
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WHU(Exeter)
Its called pathological altruism
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WHU(Exeter)
1:53 Fri Jan 3
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Orwells...I genuinely don't know the thinking behind changing it? Personally think it's another thing where there are people who are removing possible offence on behalf of other people who aren't actually offended...
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ironsofcanada
1:52 Fri Jan 3
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WHU(Exeter) 1:45 Fri Jan 3
It was always an issue with Jewish scholars because AD is Anno Domino (Year of the [the] Lord) Christ was not the Lord to them.
And yes there were atheists that did not appreciate it, both 10 and 20 years ago (my stints at university)
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orwells tragedy
1:49 Fri Jan 3
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WHU(Exeter) 1:45 Fri Jan 3
Atheists don't get "upset" about very much do they?
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Eerie Descent
1:48 Fri Jan 3
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I blame Brexit.
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WHU(Exeter)
1:45 Fri Jan 3
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I don't understand the fuss anyway, all the three major religions recognise the date irrespective of how they view Jesus and don't imagine there are too many atheists upset about the BC, AD usage.
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